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Poster: jberryhill Date: Apr 8, 2004 12:23am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Change of Domain owner

"This could lead to loss of very interesting content which has gone off-line, that the original owner as no object of it being archived."

It also leads to the availablility of archived content which the original owner may not want to be copied in the archive. Archive.org has no mechanism for obtaining an indication of consent or license to copy the material of such former domain name owners, since the robots.txt can only signal the consent or non-consent of the present domain registrant. If Archive.org wants to engage in the wholesale reproduction and transmission of material without any mechanism for obtaining an indication of the consent of the copyright owner, they can of course do so. But they are likely not to last very long.

But, Mr. Ranitovic, do I gather correctly that you make this material available on request via email?

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Poster: kavanr Date: Apr 8, 2004 5:07am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Change of Domain owner

Kavanr wrote:
"This could lead to loss of very interesting content which has gone off-line, that the original owner as not objected of it being archived."

jberryhill wrote:
It also leads to the availablility of archived content which the original owner may not want to be copied in the archive. Archive.org has no mechanism for obtaining an indication of consent or license to copy the material of such former domain name owners, since the robots.txt can only signal the consent or non-consent of the present domain registrant.
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Thanks for clarification which I understand.

Maybe there should be a way for domain owners to give positive consent to archive via the robot.txt file which then can't be easily overrided at a later date for older archives by just changing the robot.txt file.

For example if you accidentally lose your domain or it is stolen from you which does happen, then the only online proof in archive.org you could have used to try to argue to get your domain back can be deleted by the new owner.

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Poster: 24 Hour Service Station Date: May 11, 2004 1:55pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Change of Domain owner

>>For example if you accidentally lose your domain or it is stolen from you which does happen, then the only online proof in archive.org you could have used to try to argue to get your domain back can be deleted by the new owner.

I had this experience with my site when Internic did not have my proper snail mail address, and never tried to contact me via my site. I logged on to update after a tour, and it was a catch all name hold site. Now even that is not up, and the Cyber Squatter is holding the site for a hefty fee. Could I use the archive to argue and reclaim my record label's site? The address is 24hr.com. Thanks

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Poster: Igor Ranitovic Date: Apr 9, 2004 6:04am
Forum: web Subject: Re: Change of Domain owner

> But, Mr. Ranitovic, do I gather correctly that you make this material available on request via email?

I am not strongly familiar with this topic and instead of me giving you a non-detailed answer I suggest to write to info@archive.org. They should be able to provide more information on this topic.

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Poster: jberryhill Date: May 6, 2004 1:47pm
Forum: web Subject: Re: Change of Domain owner


Do "they" have a problem answering the question in a forum where it might prove useful for others?